Protecting the British fishing industry and safeguarding the nation's fishing stocks. Around 1120A/2, the destroyers HrMs Isaac Sweers (Capt. Temple, DSC, RN). Biggs, DSO, DSC, RN) and HMS Speedwell (Lt.Cdr. As for Atlantic Conveyor, I can't see how this changes things enough so that she isn't sent. I.H. Clan MacTaggart (British, 7622 GRT, built 1920), imo the Falklands war could have been avoided by clear statements about Britains willingness to defend the islands and sending some units very quickly south to show resolve. There is nothing at the site no wreck on the sea bed. Salacia (British, 5495 GRT, built 1937), The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. Also part of the convoy were the landing ships C.G.V. Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. IF you keep the Ark, then youve picked expeditionary warfare. Shaw, RNR), HMS Polruan (Lt. C.D. A.W. It would have changed were the weaknesses lay. Cooper, RNVR). The bias is obvious. Had we had a large carrier capable ofRead more . Lochmonar (British, 9412 GRT, built 1924), The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel McNair, MBE, RNVR), HMS Inchcolm (Skr. Clarke, RN, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral C.H.J. Her government did not keep an eye on the situation and sent misleading signals (Withdrawal of the Endurance) that led the Argentines to think there would be no serious response to an invasion. It is one of those what-if scenarios that can be debated, would it have stopped the war? Here are the instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. Anyway, there's an alternate history timeline on this already (sorta). We work with our allies and partners to help cement the relationships that our nation depends on. The headquarters ships HMS Bulolo (Capt.(Retd.) Around noon on 4 November 1942, the convoy was split up into two sections KMF A1 and KMF O1. W.R.K. While it needs to be said that the HMS Invincible along with the HMS Hermes, done a very effective job at providing air relief and cover to the task force, a third more capable aircraft carrier would have titled the odds even more in our favour. A.C. Whitcombe, RNR), HMS Mull (Lt. J. Plomer, RCNVR), HMS Rysa (T/Lt. There was also one subsidiary beach, ' R '. Indeed AV, it was Callahans decision to withdraw the SSN patrol from the South Atlantic in 1977 that really got the Argentines convinced we had lost interest in our South Atlantic territories. Winchester Castle. Sinclair, RN), HMS Amazon (Lt.Cdr.(Emgy.) tiger and bulwark were looked at, tiger was a mess and would have needed a comprehensiveRead more . At the heart of our naval prowess is an impressive fleet that includes destroyers, frigates and aircraft carriers. 2nd division, Empire Confidence, Lycaon and Theseus. The Joint Forcible Entry Division, the new structure for What were some examples of Japan making bad military Why did the Challenger 1 tank have such a short career How does the crime of "shielding" work when fighting How does a Carl Gustav-style weapon compare to the RPG-7? The stability of our nation depends on the freedom of the seas. The Argentinian junta invaded because they believed that Britain did not have the national and political will to liberate the islands, so the availability of Ark Royal would not have made a difference to their reasoning imo. Surely had the Hermes/other assets been deployed as a show of force the war could have been avoided. Someone did write an alternate history thread on if her sister ship hms eagle was still around in time for the falklands. Invincibles deck ws too short and dangerously narrow. It's certainly an interesting hypothetical and it isn't as clear-cut as you might think. Around 1815A/7, the section destined for ' C Sector ' (Charlie Sector) parted company with the convoy. G.P. The Admiralty had decided to make use of the expected confusion of the landings in North Africa to run two 'small' merchant ships with important cargo to Malta. L.S. Scott, RN) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy. Wodehouse, DSO, RN) also joined the convoy from ' Force O ' at the same time. G. Blessas). The carriers, whilst being a useful addition to the armed forces, are predominately vanity pieces. She was the first warship to be built in what would become the United States. Do not forget HMS Eagle, a newer ship than Ark Royal. The primitive radar technology was ill-suited for picking out fast, low-flying targets hiding in ground or sea clutter. The biggest issue for Ark Royal would have been the weather. L.S. Durban Castle (British, 17388 GRT, built 1938), Storyline: 4 ASRM. H.F. Nash, RN), destroyer HMS Vansittart (Lt.Cdr. Mark Twain (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), Biddulph, DSC, RN), HMS Rother (Lt.Cdr. Ocean Rider, F.T. Ark Royal was .unreliable despite being not particularly old so the danger of system.failure would be high. Plus if we look after them theyll almost certainly last 50 years. Recorder (British, 5981 GRT, built 1930), ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. War is about making the most of what you have at theRead more . White, RN), HMS Stork (Cdr. By the time she was paid off in 79 she was in a horrendous state. William M. Floyd (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), Learn more about the Royal Navys priorities and what we do day-to-day. Empire Confidence (British, 5023 GRT, built 1925), They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Palomeres, destroyer ORP Blyskawica, escort destroyers HMS Lamerton, HMS Wheatland, HMS Wilton, minesweepers HMS Acute, HMS Alarm, HMS Albacore, MS trawlers HMS Hoy, HMS Incholm, HMS Mull and the motor launches HMS ML 238, HMS ML 307 and HMS ML 444. Saner minds prevailed and they didnt reactivate any of them. Renny, DSC, RNR), HMS Vetch (T/A/Lt.Cdr. The radar only had an effective range of a 100 miles. HMS Eagle was the N. Hunt, RNVR), HMS Eday (T/Lt. They were escorted by the light cruiser HMS Jamaica, escort destroyers HMS Calpe (Lt.Cdr. Disagree Steve. L. Lichodziejewski, ORP), HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. During her last refit she was fitted for four Sea Cat missile launchers, but they were never installed, so she emerged from this refit with no defensive armament. Sampson, RNVR), HMS Rhyl (Cdr. This Endurance served an amazing career during the Falklands Conflict with Argentina, and her story immediately prewar was clearly illustrated in a Pebble Mill Documentary made the year before of the Falklands War. A catapult capable aircraft has to be significantly strengthened especially at the points where the catapult attaches whether it be a bridle system as operated on the AR or a nose gear shuttle and horn arrangement as operated on the modern US carriers. They had the same escort as Group III. Chase Closed My Account When Will I Get My Money, The need was the Gannet AEW. Oliver is a student at the University of East Anglia studying for a PhD in International Security. They bomb stuff and do it well. ' It's easy to look at these flying radar stations and see their potential. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. C.R. W. Harmsen, RNN) and HMS Escapade (Cdr. No way are they going to have the predicted service life of 50 years. Jean Jadot (Belgian, 5859 GRT, built 1929), Something else to consider is that if the AR or Eagle had not been scrapped then the aircraft themselves may well haveRead more . With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. Chattanooga City, On assembly off Oversay on the 27th the convoy was escorted by the light cruiser HMS Sheffield (Capt. Hamer, RN), HMS Largs (Cdr. Mary Slessor (British, 5027 GRT, built 1930), However, a new government reexamined the case and found that only shore-based aircraft was not sufficient to provide the defence needs of our global interests which were East of the Suez. HMS Rhyl Two ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Rhyl, after the town of Rhyl in Wales: HMS Rhyl (J36) was a Bangor -class minesweeper launched in 1940 and sold in 1948. 2nd division; Edward Rutledge, William Floyd and William Wirt. She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later.A twin launcher for the Seaslug anti-aircraft missile was fitted aft.At the start of the Falklands campaign, on 2 April 1982, Two weeks later on 14 May, she supported British special forces during the At the beginning of June, the task force having been reinforced with other ships, Before the missile impact, the ship executed a highspeed turn away from the missile, before the Exocet struck the port side adjacent to the hangar near the stern. Purse, DSC, RN), HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); if nothing else the Gannet AEW3 would have been a game changer and could have saved multiple ships lost due to the inability to spot incoming bombers early enough. The turn had prevented the missile from striking the ship's side perpendicularly and penetrating; instead, it hit the deck The blast travelled forwards and down, and the missile body, still travelling forwards, penetrated the hangar door, causing the ship's fully fuelled and armed On the following day, repairs were made at sea and, after the Argentinian surrender on 14 June, more extensive repairs were undertaken in the sheltered bay of A Memorial was erected in 2011 in memory of the ship and the lost crew at Hookers Point outside Stanley.Her last active deployment for the Royal Navy was in 1983/4 and she was sent on the Armilla Patrol with MoD release detailing date and position of sinking, 25 July 2008 This was a Rothesay class anti-submarine frigate built at Portsmouth and completed in 1960. Atlantic conveyor still would have gone, it wasnt just carrying harriers. Reina del Pacifico (British, 17702 GRT, built 1931), could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Mandatory Fun, https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/. However, another interesting fact was that breaking up of Ark Royal took until 1983. The convoys would then be diverted into nine groups, these were; I would not call the ability of sea denial, in conjunction with SSNs as vanity pieces. P.C. Sadly, the political issue of saving money in spite of our defence needs was one which led to the ultimate decision to scrap Ark Royal, without a replacement fixed-wing aircraft carrier to fulfill her role and functions. If Ark Royal went with either Hermes or Invincible, the air group would be bigger and more capable: Ark royal typically carried 26ish buccs and phantoms. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Tynwald, escort destroyers HMS Cowdray, HMS Zetland, sloop HMS Enchantress, minesweepers HMS Algerine, HMS Hussar, HMS Speedwell, corvettes HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire, MS trawlers HMS Cava, HMS Othello and the motor launches HMS ML 273 and HMS ML 295. Around 0725Z/7, HMS Clare parted company to join ' Force O ' which she did around 0913Z/7. L.A. Sayers, RNR), HMS Samphire (Lt.Cdr. Alphard (British, 5483 GRT, built 1937), Awatea (British, 13482 GRT, built 1936), The following Merchant Navy ships were requisitioned, as Ships Taken Up From Trade (STUFT). Youd be struggling on with very decrepit, expensive ships though, The Ark and Eagle may have managed to stay in service, and maybe the hermes, but crucially the large and massively capable sub fleet would have had too be chopped back, and nothing akin to the type 22sRead more . Clan Mactaggart, Could they have vectored Phantoms in for the kill before the Argentines struck? It is worth noting that HMSArk Royal,did have a sister ship in its lineAudaciousclass aircraft carriers that was HMSEagle. Having, in my opinion, one of the best naval strike aircraft of the period available ends up with the runway put out of commission far faster and far more permanently than the Black Buck raids would ever accomplish. More penny pinching by yet another Government. Leinster (British, 4302 GRT, built 1937) Ark Royal carried airborne early warning aircraft in the (unique) shape of the Fairest Gannet. Say a 18/12 split, though that's my opinion at this point. Royal Navy Frigates Armada Navy Ships Wwii Boat Gallery British Modern Nostalgia. Could they have spared the destroyermen from their sacrificial picket duty? But the nextRead more . Also, can whomever writes these articles stop referring to RN ships as the HMS Ark Royal? Lakin, DSC, RN) and HMS P 54 (Lt. C.E. Thirty-eight years ago, HMS Coventry sank during the Falklands War. It was a mistake for the Ministry of Defence, despite the technical and mechanical difficulties which beset HMS, Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, The importance of the Glasgow area to the Royal Navy. F.Y. For ' X ' beach The senior Naval staff use their wealth of experience to oversee all aspects of the Royal Navys activities, from operations and administration to personnel and logistics. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. G.H. Even even the phantoms and buccaneers could take off, landing was a whole new ball game. blakes 6 inch gun used in ngs role would have been invaluable, plus she had an armoured hull. The early years of Britains nuclear programme, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects, RFA Fort Victoria returns to operations after refit, NATO say Russia trying to freeze Ukraine conflict, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Airbus demonstrate A400M as a drone carrier. Like all other Royal Navy warships of the time, was part of the NATO fleet which patrolled to 'discourage aggression by Russia and the Soviet Block' during the Cold War. Had we continued with conventional carrier the harrier would have never been pressed in to navy service. Via Matteotti, 3721040 Vedano Olona VA. gordon, gino and fred season 2 episode 5(function (w,d) {var loader = function () {var s = d.createElement("script"), tag = d.getElementsByTagName("script")[0]; s.src="https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s,tag);}; if(w.addEventListener){w.addEventListener("load", loader, false);}else if(w.attachEvent){w.attachEvent("onload", loader);}else{w.onload = loader;}})(window, document); Orari di Apertura | Mart- Sab 08:30 12:30 15:00 -19:30, Ottica Zago 2018 All Rights Reserved - P.IVA 03256230123 -Design. Civilian trawlers converted to Extra-Deep Armed Team Sweep (EDATS) with some extempore acoustic and sonar equipment. J.W. Empire Mordred (British, 7024 GRT, built 1942), One can imagine the cumulative strain on the men flying such exhausting sorties day after day. The real bit of what if history (if you like a we bit of fantasy) would be what would have happened if we had not cancelled the new carrier. Thankfully, the Sea Harrier was not limited in deck movement very much at all!". I believed they even looked at an ocean going tug towing a Bulwark down there with strap on DG sets in containers fixed on board for power just to provide an extra flight deck. Not only the AEW Gannet would have make a diference, the Ark Royal Radar itsel was far more capable for detecting at long range that any other ship at the Falkands. From convoy KMS A1 the following ships were assigned to ' A Sector '; Dewdale, Lalande, Manchester Port, Ocean Viceroy and Ocean Wanderer. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. I think you will find that the ship you saw in Chatham Dockyard was in fact the Maintenance Ship HMS Triumph ( Ex Aircraft Carrier ). Of course, if Britain has committed to keeping carrier capability then it may well be the AEW.7 instead which was to have a rotodome much like the E-2 Hawkeye and subsequently significantly improved capability. 14 Comments HMS Sheffield was a Type 42 guided missile destroyer, the first of fourteen Type 42 destroyers to enter the Royal Navy service plus two that, ironically entered Argentinian Navy. Macharda (British, 7998 GRT, built 1938), As for RAF Harriers, maybe, maybe not. There weren't enough Gannets to cover every possible approach to the amphibious force in San Carlos Water or the carriers NE of the islands. It was May 21, 1982. Island nation that operates a just in time supply chain for just about everything. Buccaneers would also allow the potential for a strike on the Argentinian mainline, although very unlikely. Whether it be in the heat of the desert or ice of the Antarctic, we are ready for action in the most extreme environments on earth. Crewe-Read, RN), HMS Princess Beatrix (Cdr.(Retd.) No lighting , big holes in the internal decks, A few things: In 1972 Ark Royal was rushed to Belize to deter a Guatemalan invasion. Following Royal The harrier with the ski jump gave the Royal Navy a critical edge. The fact that its"self recorded by the Author" does not suprise me one bit. It had already had a reprieve and its time in-service date put forward. With only three or four Gannets, a single accident or maintenence crisis would have had an outsized effect the Gannet force's operations. A.A. Martin, DSC, RD, RNR), HMS Rhyl (Cdr. Please note that we're still working on this section and that we only list Commanding Officers for the duration of the Second World War. conquerors sister courageous was in the southern hemisphere at the outbreak, it never actually joined the task force. Northey, DSC, RN). M.D.C. Meyrick, RN) also departed to join the convoy. M.A.O. Keeping her was not a choice that could have been made, just a matter of how long the last of her spare parts (most recycled from Eagle) would keep working. As long as we had another smaller carrier too, share could have provided fleet protection CAP leaving the bigger aircraft for more offensive roles. G.C.P. WebDeparted HMNB Portsmouth for 7.5 month group deployment (TG 317.6) to Australia and Far East, escorting HMS Tiger and in company with RFA Grey Rover, RFA Regent, RFA Tarbatness and RFA Tidepool. Convoy C ' was made up of landing ship HMS Misoa (Lt.Cdr. Its not as straightforward as many people make out. Moving slowly in open waters, she proved easy prey for Argentine aircraft. Questo sito Web utilizza i cookie per migliorare la tua esperienza. Could keeping HMS Ark Royal have prevented the Falklands War? The Buccaneer's buddy-tanking capability could also have been used to keep Phantoms on CAP longer. Royal Navy personnel may come from all walks of life, but they are united by one thing: a commitment to protecting our nations interests, no matter what. Mooltan, Warwick Castle. Salacia, I dont believe the Argentines would have taken the islands if Hermes and the Ark had been retained as fast jet carriers. I think yes, as I find it coincidental that Ark was decommissioned in Dec 1979 and scrapping began in 1980 followed by the invasion in 1982. B.J. Gannets would have eliminated the use of type 42s as radar picket, saving Coventry and Sheffield. They also tried Bulwark and pretty much the same answer. Powney, RNVR) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy KMS O1. [1] For a list of naval forces from Argentina, see Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War. Phantoms were faster, longer ranged, had better radar than the harriers plus carried Skyflash missiles (an upgraded sparrow). Menzies, RN), HMS Penelope (Capt. J.B.G. Abel Smith, RN), destroyer HMS Clare (Lt.Cdr. Andrew, RN), HMS Clacton (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) They were escorted by the minesweepers HMS Clacton (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) Slater, RNR) and the motor launches ML 280, ML 458, ML 463, ML 469, ML 471, ML 480, ML 483 and HDML 1127, HDML 1128 and HDML 1139 departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMS O1. Buccaneers flew low over Belize City to reassure residents. H.G. Around 0200A/6, the destroyers HMS Broke (Lt.Cdr. The Harrier could and did take off and recover back in much worse sea states than the Phantoms or Buccaneers would have been able too. Dempo, C.L. Awatea, St. Essylt, Pacific Exporter, ' He never lived to collect it. I have a couple of other lined up to read/listen to about the Falklands too. HMS Escapade and HMS Marne were apparently detached to Gibraltar on the convoy passing the Strait of Gibraltar. If Ark Royal was still in commission it's arguable if the Argentinians would not have invaded considering it's capabilities. L.B. R.L. E.A. J.D. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military Holland-Martin, DSC, RN) and HMS Tartar (Cdr. A few minutes later they stopped and the landings commenced. On one hand, HMS Ark Royal had a small, but powerful air group. Hermes was to be scrapped in 1983, Invincible sold to Australia in December 82, Fearless was to be scrapped (rescinded a month or so before the invasion as compensation for the loss of Invincible, but she was still an old ship and would have probably been axed a few years later, and she wasnt a carrier so hardlyRead more , I was never a fan of Nott myself, but he did serve in the Army. I heard that the the yanks were impressed by the Bucks at Red Flag. Ralph Carter A Raisin In The Sun, Indirizzo City of Worcester (British, 5469 GRT, built 1927), St. Essylt (British, 5634 GRT, built 1941), Peachey, RN), destroyer HMS Vansittart, sloop HMS Aberdeen and the frigates HMS Exe and HMS Swale. Our ability to overcome adverse conditions means were often the first to respond when disaster strikes. Physical and mental fitness are at the heart of Royal Navy life. Leadership is an essential requirement at all levels throughout the Royal Navy. British naval forces in the Falklands War, Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War, British ground forces in the Falklands War, British air services in the Falklands War, "British Task Force - Falklands War 1982", "RFA Sir Galahad - The Demise of a Gallant Knight", British Naval Forces of the Falklands War, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War&oldid=1129419299, Articles with dead external links from July 2020, Articles with permanently dead external links, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. H.J. We (in 1982) are a major NATO nation, a nuclear power with multiple tactical nukes as well as Polaris. Corneby, RNR), HMS Kerrera (Skr. not sure how factually accurate it is but it seems relatively well researched. It was made up of the following transports; Historically British governments have neglected defence spending and I fear one day we may get caught out. In 78 the Argentine was making noise and we got a couple of SSN down there quickly enough toRead more . C.R. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. The AEW version of the Sea King arrived in theatre after the fighting was over. J.H. The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel Chase and USS Thomas Stone were also part of the convoy. Mooltan (British, 20952 GRT, built 1923), Covers this near enough and up to modern day. CATOBAR aircraft like the Phantom can only operate if the deck is pitching a few degrees. Grubbie. T.E. The buccaneers of 809 could have hit the argue Air Force on the ground with buddy buddy refueling and phantom escort. Learn more here. O.R. 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